Golf Forums - FREE Downloadable Handicap Certificate

Several people have asked us about the Downloadable Handicap Certificate (as mentioned by many in the latest TSG Survey).

The Downloadable Handicap Certificate has been included in the next release (due end June).
 
BUT you need to know that even when it's there it will not print unless you have entered the scores from at least three recent games (to comply with CONGU rules it needs to work on at least three scores). 

So if you haven't entered any scores yet you should get them in there now (enter scores via 'My Games' section).

I think this service is totally wrong and should be withdrawn.  I have a Club handicap and as such each time I enter a Club competition my handicap is adjusted accordindingly.  With your handicap it works on cards submitted which is totally different.  You only have to submit the cards you wish too.  Personally I am fed up entering competitions where these handicap certificates are accepted as you are not competing on a level playing field.  For the sake of us keen golfers I really feel this service is not a good idea.  SH

-- 17/06/2009 11:19:59: post edited by S H.

Hi, I also have a club handicap but i believe the TSG certificate is geared at people who are not members of a club but want to have an idea of what handicap they should play at. If the 'non club members' use the functionality then i dont see a problem. They have to enter 3 cards at least and i'm sure the groups they play in would want to see the card entered if they have a good game. Any golfer can cheat themselves and others by abusing the handicap system. At my club I see people who lose a few shots at the end of a monthly stableford game or just not enter monthly comps to save the handicap for the big board comps. Golfs a game of trust and enjoyment and most people i know would swerve a player who plays off 18 and comes in with 40 points every game.
Steve

when SH says 'us keen golfers' does he imply that golfers who are not members of a club are less keen. Does he think that all of us plebs who prefer playing different courses rather than trudging round the same track week after week should be disallowed from competitive golf. As far as submitting cards go I reckon most people want to see their handicap come down so are just as likely to chuck away their bad cards Incidentally my club handicap is 17 and my tsg handicap 15. I am playing in a competition tomorrow at a different club so what does SH think I should play off.

-- 17/06/2009 19:50:47: post edited by david allchorne.

-- 17/06/2009 19:53:49: post edited by david allchorne.

First of all at no stage did I say or suggest that people without Club handicaps are less keen so perhaps you should have read my reply more carefully.  If you believe all the people on this site are returning all their cards you are not living in the real world and also a lot of the scores have not been recorded under competition conditions.  I have played in many competitions at many different courses and time and time again exceptionally low scores have been returned by golfers holding non Congu Club handicaps.  So just to make it perfectly clear I do not wish to complete against golfers  in competions who do not have a regognised Congu  handicap.  In reply to your question you should play off your lowest handicap. S.H.

So to get this right even though my non congu handicap which you dont recognize is lower than my congu handicap I should use the lower one despite it being attained in 'non-competitive' competition. All sounds a bit contradictory to me

If you already have a Club Congu handicap why do you need one from the Social Golfer  as I thought it was designed for those without Club handicaps.   Club handicaps should reflect all competitive golf on all courses and also changes in the SSS.  Perhaps you would like to explain to us why your 2 handicaps are different if both are valid.  Furthermore I expressed my view as a Club golfer who plays in many competitions on other courses and its a shame you seem to think an aggressive response is called  for.  At the end of the day I now only enter competitions on other courses that recognise and accept official handicaps.  SH

SH, I think your statement "For the sake of us keen golfers" was badly put. 

I'm a keen golfer, I hold a club h/c of 13 , I also have a today golfer h/c  of 11, which is based on the Congu handicapping system,  I use todaygolfer for all my rounds be they club comps or friendly games in the uk or abroad.
Just because someone does not either want to join a club or maybe does not play enough to warrant  joining one, why should they not be allowed to enter cards on sites like this and have an idea of their H/c, odds are they may just post good scores in which case they will be playing off a better h/c then they are really capable of, or they may post bad scores in the hope of getting a higher h/c, both cases they are cheating their selves.
But if they are keen golfers like the rest of us, I'm sure they would want a true idea of their standard so post all scores.

This site is for keen golfers to meet up for friendly games, If they want to use a club h/c,this sites h/c, todaysgolfer, virtual golf society, golf magic or any other sites h/c thats fine with me.

Hi all,
it seems the downloadable handicap has caused some forum interest. 

The downloadable handicap certificate is in the next release and we hope many more of our members will wish to use this and so make more use of the enter scores via 'My Games' section.  This additional functionality was requested by many members in the TSG survey. It is the next stage moving on from current functionality whereby TSG members obtain a handicap using CONGU rules.

Once golfers have used the system functionality to obtain a handicap it is easy to continue entering scorecards to keep the handicap current.

TSG Team